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 Post subject: The Cliques/Factions of MLBPPWorld
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:59 pm 
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So, I would kind of like to make a post here, trying to possibly resolve some issues by pointing out major issues we as a forum have here.

I have seen over my time here that new members are generally not liked, especially if they ever try to make a point when they're new on the forum. I don't feel that I'm exactly liked here on the forum (not sure as to why, because I feel I'm a huge motivator to the new members doing things behind the scenes), but for whatever reason, I'm not respected amongst the overly popular group of MLBPPWorld, (Skittles, Mac, PPFan, Paul, Brewers, sometimes PPJ, and sometimes Prediction). This "overly popular group" in my opinion is a slightly corrupt source on the forum, because it never seems that any of them interact with, or try to help new members to the forum. I have seen countless examples of PPFan, Skittles, Brewers, and Paul all saying that they don't know that any of these users exist. Mac has an excuse, that is, that he isn't on as much.

Now, the over popular group is not exactly the only source of corruption on the forum. New members, often because of their youth, or inexperience with forums can get picked on, A LOT, and this leads to a massive amount of drama between the over populars and the new kids. What happens next is that the passive bystanders (that's what we'll call them) AgentP, Phillies, Dish, me, Jag, etc. will occasionally side with the over popular group during dramatic events, such as when some newb tries to bring up some point with politics, just because the over populars are oftenly more respected because of how long they've been on the forum. Then, it results in fights breaking out, people getting banned, new users being afraid to join, etc.

In my opinion, an easy solution to this problem can be for the tokewl4school kids, or the overpopular ones to get to know the newbs a little bit better, maybe interact with them once or twice in a year. Seriously, PPFan just talked to Jag for the first time TODAY! Jag has been a member for over two years iirc. That's sad. For someone like him, (sorry I'm calling you out PPFan), but someone like him, who was brought up among the moderator conversation, to not know who a member is that has a massive contribution to the site. I'm sorry, that doesn't seem right to me. So again, I feel a solution to this problem could be certain users maybe cutting down on their pride a bit, and to talk to some of the new youngsters to the forums. Hey, maybe you'll find some guy that's pretty cool. New members always have the capability to be cool. For example, Brewers was once new, Skittles was once new, etc.

I feel like I'm going to get a huge amount of hate on this post because of my profile, but hey, I just want to make this forum a better place.

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 Post subject: Re: The Cliques/Factions of MLBPPWorld
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 Post subject: Re: The Cliques/Factions of MLBPPWorld
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That's.....actually well thought out. Huh.

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That's.....actually well thought out. Huh.

Hard to believe it came from my mind eh? :P

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I wasn't mentioned. Yay! :mrgreen:


Hey me either, high five!

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 Post subject: Re: The Cliques/Factions of MLBPPWorld
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You make some really good points, Zero. I appreciate this post, as we need a discussion like this to solve the problem between newbies and established veterans not getting along. You've pinpointed where the dividing lines are on the forum pretty much perfectly. Those are really well-thought out points, and I hope people see this and decide to take action on it.

I try to interact a bit with new members when I get the chance. You mentioned something about politics - that's just a touchy subject that I really feel shouldn't be discussed, because that could create a whole new shitstorm on the forum, and that wouldn't be good. That's why we don't talk politics too much here.

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 Post subject: Re: The Cliques/Factions of MLBPPWorld
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I take sole responsibility for the downfall of MLBPPWORLD. :) It has been my plan since day one.

I get your point but all of the new members here joined because of Power Pros, and so they're still into PP. I'm not. They all talk about roster update and logs and stuff but I just don't care about PP any more so I ignore it, also ignoring them as a side effect of that. Because I really don't care if Carlos Correa has B power or not. And then since that's all they post about(not saying there's something wrong with it, it's good people still play) I never read their posts or get to know them. Now I'm not trying to say it's their fault for not getting to know me, cuz it really is mine. :lol: but that doesn't mean I gonna take the time to read through stuff I don't care about just so people feel more accepted by me. :)

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 Post subject: Re: The Cliques/Factions of MLBPPWorld
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Brewers is right. I don't know many of the newer members very well (and I doubt they know much about me) because I have absolutely zero interest in a Power Pros roster update. I think it's awesome that people are doing it, it's just something I'm not interested in participating in or talking about. I also don't spend as much time on the forum as I used to, but that's a different story.

The forum will be a better place without PP27 and I doubt we'll see another argument like that without him. He was aggressive, rude, and argumentative troughout his tenure and brings out the worst in both the people on his side and against him. With him gone, I don't see there being any more problems.

Also, Zero, I don't think people dislike you. I group you into the older member group at this point.

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 Post subject: Re: The Cliques/Factions of MLBPPWorld
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BrewersFuzz wrote:
I take sole responsibility for the downfall of MLBPPWORLD. :) It has been my plan since day one.

I get your point but all of the new members here joined because of Power Pros, and so they're still into PP. I'm not. They all talk about roster update and logs and stuff but I just don't care about PP any more so I ignore it, also ignoring them as a side effect of that. Because I really don't care if Carlos Correa has B power or not. And then since that's all they post about(not saying there's something wrong with it, it's good people still play) I never read their posts or get to know them. Now I'm not trying to say it's their fault for not getting to know me, cuz it really is mine. :lol: but that doesn't mean I gonna take the time to read through stuff I don't care about just so people feel more accepted by me. :)


Great post, Brewers.

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 Post subject: Re: The Cliques/Factions of MLBPPWorld
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Brewers is right. I don't know many of the newer members very well (and I doubt they know much about me) because I have absolutely zero interest in a Power Pros roster update. I think it's awesome that people are doing it, it's just something I'm not interested in participating in or talking about. I also don't spend as much time on the forum as I used to, but that's a different story.

The forum will be a better place without PP27 and I doubt we'll see another argument like that without him. He was aggressive, rude, and argumentative troughout his tenure and brings out the worst in both the people on his side and against him. With him gone, I don't see there being any more problems.

Also, Zero, I don't think people dislike you. I group you into the older member group at this point.


Sorry for the double response, but was PP27 banned or something?

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 Post subject: Re: The Cliques/Factions of MLBPPWorld
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Brewers is right. I don't know many of the newer members very well (and I doubt they know much about me) because I have absolutely zero interest in a Power Pros roster update. I think it's awesome that people are doing it, it's just something I'm not interested in participating in or talking about. I also don't spend as much time on the forum as I used to, but that's a different story.

The forum will be a better place without PP27 and I doubt we'll see another argument like that without him. He was aggressive, rude, and argumentative troughout his tenure and brings out the worst in both the people on his side and against him. With him gone, I don't see there being any more problems.

Also, Zero, I don't think people dislike you. I group you into the older member group at this point.


Sorry for the double response, but was PP27 banned or something?


yeah, he got banned "indefinitely" by dish yesterday

first off, this is a really interesting thread

I agree, those who aren't interested in the roster update have lost touch with the newer members since all they seem to talk about is roster update this and roster update that

and yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens with PP27 gone, hopefully nothing like this ever happens again

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 Post subject: Re: The Cliques/Factions of MLBPPWorld
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detroittigers15 wrote:
Brewers is right. I don't know many of the newer members very well (and I doubt they know much about me) because I have absolutely zero interest in a Power Pros roster update. I think it's awesome that people are doing it, it's just something I'm not interested in participating in or talking about. I also don't spend as much time on the forum as I used to, but that's a different story.

The forum will be a better place without PP27 and I doubt we'll see another argument like that without him. He was aggressive, rude, and argumentative troughout his tenure and brings out the worst in both the people on his side and against him. With him gone, I don't see there being any more problems.

Also, Zero, I don't think people dislike you. I group you into the older member group at this point.


Sorry for the double response, but was PP27 banned or something?


yeah, he got banned "indefinitely" by dish yesterday

first off, this is a really interesting thread

I agree, those who aren't interested in the roster update have lost touch with the newer members since all they seem to talk about is roster update this and roster update that

and yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens with PP27 gone, hopefully nothing like this ever happens again

Wow, banned twice. PP27 used to be a good guy back when he joined. Now all he does is cause drama.

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So, if he tries to come on the site, would it say you are banned, or would it send email saying you are ineligible to come on site?

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would like to echo everything that dtigers said up there, he's pretty spot on. I'm gonna try to make a conscious effort to start coming back here a bit more but I'm not so sure how well that's gonna work -- for now it's the summer and I don't have much else to do so it can't hurt. I had no idea this shit was going on and the influx of members with names like "LETSGOMETS," "RANGERSMVP11," "GoTwins24" etc makes it hard to differentiate, but that's my fault more than anything.


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Hey now, I knew who jag was, I'd just never spoken to him for the reasons dtigers brought up. I don't look at any of the roster update threads, really, so the the two of us never had a chance to interact.

Oh well, what's done is done, and the departure of PP27 is a weight lifted.

Gonna be honest though, I still don't know most of the new members (but that's mainly because I don't go on here too much anymore)

I'll work on it, though

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